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Post by The Rock on Apr 13, 2018 19:39:25 GMT
Ok. Can you get back to your official commish duties now and end some auctions so I can get back to making more confusing bids? That'd be great
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Post by Steamboat on Apr 13, 2018 19:58:30 GMT
Apr 13, 2018 13:13:29 GMT -5 Macho Man said: Steamboat Avatar Apr 13, 2018 12:20:43 GMT -5 Steamboat said: You're about as bad as Goodell. I'll make sure to make my proposal next year. Thanks.
Now keeping to the rules is being “as bad as Goodell?” The rules clearly state rule change proposals are to be brought in March and it’s not as though any change would be implemented this year anyways.
You’ve now accused me of changing rules for my benefit and now being as bad as Goodell, whatever that means. Just saying.
I am fine with that. I will follow the rule, as I do all the rules. Unfortunately, your determination on when an amended rule can be proposed and voted on does not resolve the two issues we have been discussing. They now persist. And, although nobody seems to care to discuss it, the most egregious of which is you unilaterally changed a rule, which is critically important because it touches on the integrity of the system. We all pay into the league, we all support it, and we all have a stake in it. The rule you unilaterally changed prevented Rock from making a bid on three players simultaneously and set off this string of comments. Previously, there was an ambiguity in the rules. The error was unintentional. But, it was your fault because you drafted the rules. The ambiguity should always be interpreted AGAINST the drafter (i.e. you). Therefore, Rock should have had the right to use all three of his picks. Yet, you changed the rules. It prevented Rock from using all three of his picks. You won the bid when the only person who wanted to bid against you was effectively removed from bidding because he valued two other players more than Burkhead. This is a conflict of interest. I call it like I see it. Just because you started the league and created the rules does not mean you are above them. Just because you failed to include a conflict of interest provision in Section X does not mean you should unilaterally change the rules in this situation. Just because, in your brain, you did not intend to create a conflict of interest, there is an air of impropriety. It's bogus. And, just because nobody else wants to stand up and try to fix it does not mean it should not be fixed. Sometimes you have to stand on a fence post and piss people off to get positive change. I don't want to fight with you. This doesn't need to turn ugly. But, in the words of the late great James Brown, "you gotta face the facts." XOXO
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Post by Macho Man on Apr 13, 2018 21:23:31 GMT
You have already chosen to fight by acting the way you are and it has already turned ugly. The constitution gives me the authority to make rule changes that I feel are in the best interest of the league without league approval. This is what I was doing when I fixed an unintentional error. You may not like it, but this isn't a federal statute, as much as you want to pretend it is, it's a fantasy football league rulebook. Instead of being understanding you decided to get nasty and throw a verbal fit. I never once said in this entire discussion that the rule couldn't be changed or amended for future years, I said it's not changing this year and you could propose your rule change at the proper time as stated in Section X.1. You act as though its some sort of conspiracy against the Rock and started slinging claims of corruption and malfeasance from the jump. I do not put the time and energy into managing these leagues for my own benefit, I don't change the rules so I could be the highest bidder on Rex Burkhead (even though The Rock could still have bid on him using 3.03, but opted not to) and I certainly don't do it to be insulted. In the words of the great Ice Cube, "you better check yo self before you wreck yo self."
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Post by Steamboat on Apr 13, 2018 21:31:03 GMT
Last word
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Post by Steamboat on Apr 13, 2018 22:07:59 GMT
If it’s not a federal statute, don’t treat it like one.
Conspiracies require more than one person. Since you unilaterally acted, this isn’t a conspiracy. It is a conflict of interest.
Ultimately, the issue is you are legislator, cop, prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner. No checks or balances. The change benefitted you because it cut out the only other bidder. You then won. But there was no one to check you, which is what pissed off Rock and me.
What should have happened is: Rock recognizes the error. You say “I messed up. For this RFA, you can bid with all picks simultaneously. Let’s correct this next March when rule proposals can be made.” Nobody complains, MDM gets a better return on his player. Everyone is happy.
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Post by Beefcake on Apr 14, 2018 0:01:26 GMT
Hulk, you got the beer?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 0:06:01 GMT
LOL, good one JB!
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Post by Beefcake on Apr 14, 2018 1:30:15 GMT
I aim to please.
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Post by Hulkamania on Apr 14, 2018 14:55:06 GMT
Bahahaha
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Post by Nature Boy on Apr 15, 2018 9:54:39 GMT
Lmao. Don’t have the popcorn gif myself or I would post it. First off I think Todd does an awesome job and I know he puts in ton of time. Thanks Todd. On the issue of future picks I think that they should always be allowed because this increases the strategy for tagging etc. this takes the bowling bumpers off so to say. All rule changes must happen in the designated time frame for a reason. I believe Todd did the right thing by clarifying the rule (he wrote it). I don’t believed he changed the structure of the rule. I also understand the rocks view of being scared to bid on too many players. The only real solution is to either leave the Burkhead auction alone or restart it for only these 2 owners. I honestly don’t see Burkhead as a major player but you never know. Also this will be brought up as rule proposal in March
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Post by Beefcake on Apr 15, 2018 14:23:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 16:42:30 GMT
I’ll chime in here. For the record, steamboat, I’m an attorney too. There are certain situations where a commish has to clarify or make a decision based on the best interest of the league. That is why you have to put in a provision that allows you to do it. This league has that provision. As for manipulating the system, Todd is right. Most owners will make the rules work for them. If a way exists, experienced owners in this system will use them. Todd does an amazing job in commishing the leagues that he does. The constitution is the responsibility of every owner. Not just Todd. Everyone has an interest in making the league great.
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Post by Hulkamania on May 4, 2018 17:15:29 GMT
We have a Bam Bam sighting
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Post by Beefcake on May 4, 2018 17:26:57 GMT
Who’s Bam Bam?
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Post by Hulkamania on May 4, 2018 17:33:20 GMT
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